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The idea of Hawaii is irresistible but reality intrudes. Is Hawaii being ruined? And could you elaborate more on what you loved there, and in Malaysia, Philippines etc?

Thank you so much! The big reason is the high cost of living. It would be much cheaper living and possibly a friendlier climate. I could easily point out the same about Texas and other red states.

Being an independent and living in California, there is a strong blend of conservatives in suburbs. They all have their pros and cons. I can tell you living outside the big cities of Thailand, Philippines or Vietnam is living with virtually no modern healthcare. The same can be said about the people who live in America IE remote Native reservations and rural Appalachia. Hawaii is a good place to live if you really like Asian and Polynesian culture and food.

I really think before people decide they want to move to Hawaii they seriously need to research and see if this culture is compatible with them personally. I moved to Hawaii due to work military.

The first years were great after a period of adjustment coming from the gritty east coast. Why have I stayed so long? In less than 2 years I will be able to return to the mainland.

No hard feelings toward Hawaii. Great story. Perhaps Peter, you are striving for SEO recognition, maybe you are just a jerk. Moving to Hilo is amazing, and no, not rich��. I do like on the ocean though as a digital project manager working globally. I think I know�.

Does the jerk comment apply to all the other locals that commented in agreement on this thread too, or just me. I think for some, statements of observation or fact can come off as negative. We can all assume many reasons why, but I just had to say�Peter is clearly doing a service by having honest public dialogue about far off places that many dream of coming too.

If everyone thinks the world is rainbows and their responsibility to keep it that way, we will stop seeing real rainbows. It would be cool to see her well thought out and invested blog on Hawaii for comparison. I had put together a very carefully constructed and respectful reply to Katherine and I was almost done and then I got a call and stupidly walked away from my computer without making a copy somewhere I might retrieve it should said computer decide to be an a-hole and refresh this page which deleted the whole thing!!

I absolutely plan to resurrect this reply cause it should be said but I gotta jet. You need someone to talk to, shoot me a note, I do regressions and all kinds of self-illuminating paths to growth. We can uncover your hidden hurt before it continues to spread. Sadness kills. This list is not only accurate, but well-written.

Road trip for the win! I mean, loss. The only adjustment I would make to your list is to the pecking order. Not that I tried to get in to Kamehameha or claim some Homestead or anything. Aloha Karissa and huge mahalos for taking the time to write one. Love the feedback. I lived in Hawaii. Almost always felt I am a haole. Yes, there are even discriminations, sometimes at work at public handling. It eminded me locals first, asians second haoles and of the line. Take a look of the names of representatives in the State Capitol, Japanese.

Japapnese and locals run the islands. It is a disadvantage being haole. You either a top expert what you do or better find your palce on the mainland. Sorry guys, the truth may hurt. I lived on Waikiki. I have a job opportunity on Oahu that is a big step up for me financially which is why my wife and I are moving our family there in the near future and my wife being the investigative type showed this to me while at work this afternoon.

Great read! Appreciate an honest take and heart-felt attempt at painting a picture of what to really expect on moving to Hawaii. Drugs are bad, check. The fact of the matter is this, if you want to live in Hawaii, make it happen! I fully expect it to be like anything else in life�. That is to say you get out of it what you put into it. Negativity begets negativity and vice versa. Being called an outsider or foreigner is common place.

I absolutely loved my time in Taiwan! Loved the culture, loved the people, learned a ton. Same with my time in Kuwait. It goes both ways in every city, every state, every country. I saw the disparity in living conditions growing up in rural Montana living near and on Native American reservations and here in Alaska. I could go on for hours on the right and wrong of a thing. There are outliers, far left, far right, but the vast majority of people live in a happy median on both sides of the aisle.

My wife and I have 5 children. One born in Idaho, three in UT, and the youngest while living here in Alaska. If anything it will be a great opportunity for them to learn about a place and culture they would never get to learn anywhere else, and that is priceless.

Thanks again for the good read and plethora of comments! Without a doubt in my mind, Hawaii is the prettiest of all of the states. And while it is part of the United States, it certainly has a feel of being its own tropical paradise.

There are so many different things about living in Hawaii versus living on the mainland that it kind of is its own separate place. That being said, you get both the tropical paradise and beauty of an island as well as the luxuries of a first world country. People underestimate how expensive it can be to live on the island. Housing is expensive and that includes renting.

There are parts on the islands that are less expensive, but those places will likely be less desirable for some reason: usually because they are harder to access places, less amenities or more prone to natural disasters like lava. To grow up in a tourist economy where you must embrace tourism to have jobs and must be welcoming on a certain level to changes and accommodations and destruction and so many painful things�but then to have people come and like stake their claim not with bad intention of course the way Euro explorers always did, put the flag down and boom!

It is impossible for a place to not change. It eventually gets overwhelmed if the tourist population continues to stay and bring more people, more more from their own culture into yours and they are minority but still at the top economically and at the real power base, politically. There are healthier and unhealthier ways to try to keep damage down and make the most of their resources and such.

Each person takes space. Just ideas and feelings. Nothing eloquent, smart or necessarily well grounded. Mahalo Jeff! The primarily ruling party in Hawaii is based on entitlements and forced labor � this is a top down problem, they teach kids in Hawaii and the mainland that people owe them all kinds of things, they teach the kids other citizens are their slaves, to work for them, to learn their violent culture � sorry this is wrong, it is the definition of human wrong.

Imagine a Hawaii that embraced the opposite, liberty, the traditional American legal and cultural system. It could better embrace the good sides of its culture and shed the bad parts. At least Hawaii is lucky enough to be part of the oldest and most sustainable nation on earth, despite all the bad stuff described in the comment. Hawaii can still reject cultural educational mandates and retain its diverse culture under liberty.

Just need to shed the entitlements. Oh I see, let me explain, there are many types of slaves, not even getting too deep here. In both cases I am forced to go and work even more to be able to retain my right to my literal self, my labor. I have seen HI tax bills, you do have taxes. Yes, chattel slavery is different than taxation, perhaps I should have used the more inclusive terms, forced labor or forced extraction, which includes both.

Hawaii is thus one of the least progressive states and has one of the lowest respects for individual liberty. Does not make it hell, but these statements are based on widely available data. It is also common in beautiful states, taxes can be raised because humans are willing to sacrifice more to be near beauty. Nothing personal there � but it is the adopted culture now. Yes I know, a progressive is typically referred to as someone who wants more taxes, but just like the term liberal or even the word taxes, this is a language manipulation technique, there is literally an article on this in the WSJ recently, relating what so called progressives are doing today back to what the sociopaths in the French Revolution did vs.

Replacing chattel slavery with even more taxes which is what the US did from say to , is not progress, neither is right no need to compare them to each other, they should be compared to more creative and moral systems. Hawaii seems to like its involuntary taxes thrust upon many by a few, that was my point.

Perhaps calling what we do taxes is about as off as calling it slavery�. We all pay our taxes, myself included, but few of us decide what all of us pay. While I respect that voting is a way of deciding things in groups, it is not fully voluntary either, you are compelled to face the results even if you do not participate.

A liberty based system, vs an entitlement based system such as voting, is what we use for most human organization and action, I am not clear why we resort to voting for the leftovers. My sense is yes. I hope this helps you know where I got my statements. Feel free to read on. Feel free to post this or not, though if you do not, I ask you to remove my post above your response.

Consider the following sequence of cases, which we shall call the Tale of the Slave, and imagine it is about you. He often is cruelly beaten, called out in the middle of the night, and so on. The master is kindlier and beats the slave only for stated infractions of his rules not fulfilling the work quota, and so on.

He gives the slave some free time. The master has a group of slaves, and he decides how things are to be allocated among them on nice grounds, taking into account their needs, merit, and so on. The master allows his slaves four days on their own and requires them to work only three days a week on his land. The rest of the time is their own. The master allows his slaves to go off and work in the city or anywhere they wish for wages. He requires only that they send back to him three sevenths of their wages.

He also retains the power to recall them to the plantation if some emergency threatens his land; and to raise or lower the three-sevenths amount required to be turned over to him. He further retains the right to restrict the slaves from participating in certain dangerous activities that threaten his financial return, for example, mountain climbing, cigarette smoking.

The master allows all of his 10, slaves, except you, to vote, and the joint decision is made by all of them. There is open discussion, and so forth, among them, and they have the power to determine to what uses to put whatever percentage of your and their earnings they decide to take; what activities legitimately may be forbidden to you, and so on.

Let us pause in this sequence of cases to take stock. If the master contracts this transfer of power so that he cannot withdraw it, you have a change of master.

You now have 10, masters instead of just one; rather you have one 10,headed master. Perhaps the 10, even will be kindlier than the benevolent master in case 2. Still, they are your master.

However, still more can be done. A kindly single master as in case 2 might allow his slave s to speak up and try to persuade him to make a certain decision. The 10,headed monster can do this also. Though still not having the vote, you are at liberty and are given the right to enter into the discussions of the 10,, to try to persuade them to adopt various policies and to treat you and themselves in a certain way.

They then go off to vote to decide upon policies covering the vast range of their powers. In appreciation of your useful contributions to discussion, the 10, allow you to vote if they are deadlocked; they commit themselves to this procedure.

After the discussion you mark your vote on a slip of paper, and they go off and vote. In the eventuality that they divide evenly on some issue, 5, for and 5, against, they look at your ballot and count it in. This has never yet happened; they have never yet had occasion to open your ballot.

A single master also might commit himself to letting his slave decide any issue concerning him about which he, the master, was absolutely indifferent. They throw your vote in with theirs. If they are exactly tied your vote carries the issue. Otherwise it makes no difference to the electoral outcome. The question is: which transition from case 1 to case 9 made it no longer the tale of a slave?

I believe it percent exists and am glad you brought it up as a con because that really is. Why is it that on the mainland we are expected to welcome immigrants and newcomers with open arms, not pass judgement based on skin color or background and yet in Hawaii, you need to accept you will be treated differently if you are white or not indigenous?

I am just going to say it, living somewhere a longer period of time than someone else is not an accomplishment. It means your family never moved� not that you have done anything to deserve superior treatment. Born and raised in Kaimuki, moved to the mainland at age Since I keep returning to check out the four main Islands to see if I am ready to return home.

If they like me for the position they will assist in relocation. I like to walk, hike, and I have a dual-sport motorcycle that I like to ride. I write books in my free time, have not owned TV in 10 years, and my only desire is to be somewhere warm and inspiring to continue my hobby after work. I am white�And as I work in the office then return home to write more in my studio, I do not have a tan at all. So there will be no fitting in as far as appearance goes.

The people scheduled to interview me have Japanese-sounding last names and as I read this article I wonder if I have any chance at the position at all, given my mainland origin and ethnicity. What should happen and what can happen are distinctly different in my viewpoint, and I do believe that Hawaii is better off being stolen by the United States than by Imperial Japan.

In the world I live in, labels themselves do not make valid arguments. I grew up in silicon valley and have never had a problem with diversity. But in reading what they have to say themselves, and not because of anything others have said about them, I wonder if the Kanaka who may be offended by my use of the term for some reason that I never even imagined have their own version diversity.

As expressed unashamedly throughout this thread: The white people from the mainland are perceived as trespassing thieves, but their counterparts from the other side of ocean are not. So although the Japanese and Chinese sit beneath them in the pecking order that was spoken of, it appears the fall from second place to bottom where the white mainlanders lay is a pretty steep and far drop.

Thank you all for enlightening me further on the topic. This thread has been a rich source of material. If he got the job, I wish him the absolute best. Not realizing that being part of the majority culture, one ironically sees other cultures as something distinct, but their own not as a specific culture, but as just the norm.

As Jeff has pointed out to the obvious demographic this was written for, you move somewhere not your country, you have to ASSUME a position of an outsider. Or shocked that their idea of an entitlement to equality I mean on a social level, not innate level is a problem.

And always recognize they must stay in position of learner if they want to grow into a unique but not more special place as a member of a new community! However: I would like to say one thing a bit more specific to this quasi-forum�I want to say that if you are offended by things like locals not wanting you in their area or expect public schools to be good or feel entitled to things you may never worried about before that appear unfair to you, or thinking that people should just accept and understand you immediately because Aloha!

I truly cannot see that kind of entitlement working out too well for anyone, you or everyone who will be impacted by your move! This site has a lot of really excellent insight and content, which I really appreciate! Whether as an explainer piece on various topics that come up among your comments, or more articles like this, from your perspective as a white mainlander who moved and has tried to integrate for many years, I think it would do so much good on many levels.

Just suggestion, I know it must be time consuming! I think you get the award for longest comment so far and also a trophy for thoughtful commentary.

Big Mahalo! That overthrow was orchestrated by a group of Caucasian American businessmen who eventually rewrote the rules of law to forbid native Hawaiians from owning land. In time after that, Japanese and Chinese laborers were brought into the Islands to work on the farming concerns that had been established by these same American businessmen.

The native Hawaiian population had been decimated by diseases brought by Westerners, AND they were less than willing to go to work for the people who had overthrown their beloved Queen.

That the Japanese and Chinese offspring of the original laborers have done well for themselves has a lot to do with a system that forced native Hawaiians to the bottom of the pecking order, including enacting laws to prevent them from even speaking their own language in their own homeland.

It is wonderful to be wise of the history of any place or culture, which always invariably includes oppression. I would caution anyone from easily associating this knowledge with justification to be bigoted towards an individual, who shall endlessly be the smallest minority, based on the group associations likely wrongly assigned by the current oppressor.

Agreed, that bigotry cannot be justified. With knowledge of the history, however, you might just be able to approach people with a more sympathetic heart. Just to follow up on this issue: mahalo nui! Going back over this question, it was definitely unclear and I rephrased the answers. Mahalo hou for making the change.

I retook the quiz and my answer was completely different, in a positive way! This place has given me And my kids great experiences but super awful ones. We are about to make our 5th move. This landlord singed a 1 yr lease with us and changed it to 5 mo th on me. He is from the mainland but treat you like you dont matter which is what others do hear as well. Landlords are horrible here. Good luck on finding a decent place to live where they take care of the property or dpnt break lease terms. Tons of crime, drugs, weird voodoo shit, negativity, and disgust if your not from here.

The education system is horrible as a teacher. We have loved exploring the island but i dont recommend the east side of the big island. Fake aloha from most. We are trying to tough it out one more year to let my oldest graduate. I would say white people are messing the island up, locals who are trying to make profit and dolt care whothey screw over are the biggest problem. All people do is complain so its hard to sustain being positive and happy around it all the time. I miss southern cali and that energy.

If you dont want a half run down place or landlord thatwont fix anything its gonna cost you. And the work trades forget it it is now slave trading women. Sorry to say not all all lole I expected. I keep to myself mostly. And just makememories that will be happy for my life while we are here. Spot on for the article.

Like anywhere, you need to extend yourself as the newcomer. A fast way to connect is to volunteer in the community. Fortunately, one cannot just drive here or hitchhike in.

Otherwise the homeless problem would be like San Francisco or Phoenix. I agree with you. I am a Black woman I moved to Maui in as a very young person. Now there are too many white people living on Maui. I still have family there and visit time to time but the white folk have taken over.

Perfect article that backs up what I previously commented on, but for some reason my comments never showed up in the posting. I am happy to give my son the opportunity to live in a beautiful place with fantastic people, culture and history. I have encouraged him to learn the Hawaiian language so he can better understand the native people and where they come from and how they have had to unfortunately adapt to outsiders pushing their values upon them.

Aloha, When I stated that we experienced racism or maybe it could just be rudeness. We get up to the cashier as we are next and start unloading our items. There are a few people in line behind us waiting to check out.

OK so how was that our fault we were not acting badly we did not even say anything to the rude lady who budged in line even after she budged in front of us. This did not only happen once but twice to us in 2 total different stores in a matter of a 6 week period. I also have a friend who has lived on the island for 50 years.

She said the only way she could earn an income was to start her own little dog grooming service locally. She still says she sometimes can still sense the glares when she is out in publicbecause she is white she said has just learned to ignore them. I wish you the best and its not necessarily the racism on the island that I think we could handle just fine like I said we have made many lifelong friends on the island. We did not notice the crime or racism until we actually lived there for a while took a couple years..

I wish the best for you on your move to the island. We still own our home on the island we may sell in a year and then maybe not. Hi Sorry just seen this message. We rented this year to some long term tenants as health reasons have changed in our household and we will not longer be going back to the island each winter..

We will take care of any major repairs that may come up on the home and or if an appliance goes out or something. There is a big difference renting to locals vs mainlanders.

We would not even consider renting to locals for the most part. We still may sell our cottage in the next year now with the health issues and needing to be closer to medical facilities on the mainland. Aloha, We have been snowbirds for the last 10 years and have been coming to our Island home for 7 months out of each year.

We still own a home on the Big Island of Hawaii. This year will be our last Winter on the Big Island for a while we Storage Shed Kits Home Depot Near Me would like to do other things in the Winter. While Hawaii can be beautiful and some days the weather is just about perfect. It is not that way all the time.

There is SO much crime here and racism we do not feel safe and not just limited to a particular area. Lots of crime all over the island yes, more so in some areas but for the most part ALL over. Some people are very friendly while others are very rude and inconsiderate. Living on the island has opened our eyes to racism in addition to how selfish and rude people can be. Sure not everyone is that way some are great and we have made some very good friends that will be our friends for life.

We will return to the islands in the Winter but going forward will be for only a few months maybe 3 and we will rent a place and be tourist!!!! We feel much more Aloha back at our mainland home then we ever have felt in the last 10 years on the island. On the mainland we can walk down the streets of a midsize city and pretty much everyone will Greet each other with a Hi as you pass by each other no matter what color you are or if you know them or not. We are perfectly fine just being tourist next time we come to the island.

At the very least we will be treated decent even if only by staff where it is there job to be friendly. I think it depends on what areas of the mainland you are referring as NOT all parts of the mainland discriminate against people of color. Where I live there is no discrimination of any kind that I have noticed. Thus why it was such a shock for me to witness it on the island.

I was visiting Colorado one time and felt discriminated against me for being white and another time in Florida and some southern states. So it is not only the blacks, Hispanics etc.. It happens to Caucasians also, but when it happens to white people they are not supposed to talk about it as for some reason its considered they deserve it or something.

Just my opinion � not asking anyone to agree or disagree with me. Just returned from my 23rd trip to the Islands. As a tourist I yield to the locals their spots, like Hookena beach on a B. I get it. We land and spend money renting houses, hotels, and driving cars the locals could never afford.

And do those who feel this way actually believe that in our modern age of world struggle, they were going to go on living on the most militarily strategic island chain in the western Pacific, peacefully living the life of fishing, planting taro, and with Ohana as their only concern?

Everyday they should be grateful for the fact that they are NOT part of China or Russia, for that was most definitely their future without the United States annexation. Very well written article Peter, and you bring up a lot of great points.

This article really speaks to Oahu, since this was where I lived and am moving back. When I transferred with the company to Charlotte NC my salary stayed the same which did feel like a pay raise due to the cost of living difference. It was a really convenient place to live with a little bit of an ocean view. That was a bug rent jump for me, but my working hours were somewhat flexible so I could avoid peak traffic into Honolulu. My only complaint was once I got the 2br condo for myself I had to budget other things more carefully than I do now.

I definitely went to Costco a lot more! When we move back, we will first rent a new or renovated condo somwehere in Honolulu. Long story short- I had a great standard of living when I was there with a typical decent corporate america job and expect to have it again.

What I think is important to add is that you do learn to do without more in Hawaii in general because of costs- but things mattered a lot less to me there because I had the sun, sand and beach. The VW Passat paled in comparison. North Carolina, where I live right now is ranked 32 by Forbes and Hawaii is ranked So it is a little lower, but not a huge swing.

My daughter will start kindergarten on Oahu so I have carefully researced the schools to determine the specific neighborhoods I look at for us to live.

I do think parental involvement makes a huge difference too beyond this. There are lots of job opportunities on Oahu where the employer is not based on the islands.

But as a single mom of a 5 year old that purchased here 5 years ago and has built equity and realized modest appreciation in her new 3 bedroom townhome here, I can sell it and have enough for a downpayment and reasonable mortgage for a nice 2br townhome in many different neighborhoods on Oahu. Ewa Beach is one I am looking at.

Even though traffic is bad in Honolulu, I found in general my driving distances were much shorter so I was sitting in traffic less. I worked with everyone from locals that were managers to Koreans that were small business owners. I remember at first several of them were cool to me- not rude, but not warm and friendly either. I think a huge part of your ability to succeed with locals has to do with your adaptability- it IS a very different culture. And everyone warmed up to me.

In many ways it feels like living in another country. I think the perception of race is a lot better in Hawaii than in the mjority of the continental US- so many people are mixed that race seems to be thought of less. I think the locals respected that I was kind, geunine and authentic. I remember one time a local at a gas station on the west side complaining about locals that lived on US government assistance and at the same time resented that Hawaii was part of the United States.

She told me it made no sense.. Experiences like that taught me that the sentiment among locals is mixed- there are lots of locals that are happy Hawaii is part of the US. Oahu where I lived is the most crowded island by far and there are still lots and lots of more remote beaches on the North Shore and West Side of the island that have almost no one on them at any given time.

I think it depends on where you go. For me, the positives of living on Oahu far outweight the negatives. Here in the suburbs of Charlotte, I have a new home, a nice car and little traffic- but at the same time, the beach is 3. If Hawaii had ALL the positives and things in common with most places in the contintental states, plus its beaches, weather and incredible beauty, there would have to be some sort of lottery system or waiting list to get there because of the demand that sort of value equation would create.

Bottom line- there are pros and cons to anywhere you live and where is best for you depends on what you weight as most important. Thank you for sharing, Terra! I live in Charlotte, NC too. Thank you, Terra. I enjoyed reading your comments. My husband and I just moved to the Big Island from Ohio. After reading yours and others experiences, I am reminded that a very large portion of our outcomes in life are directly related to our attitudes and the choice to see the beauty in perceived obstacles.

We lived on the East side of Big Island for 3 years in the late 90s-early s. Found this article pretty spot on and accurate. As a younger white male, you will experience racism here and there, but hey, welcome to the good ol USA! Racism is sadly part of the American landscape and it just comes in different flavors in HI.

I learned to adapt, took a soft-humble approach to locals and worked to embrace the unique gifts the place had to offer. I could say a lot here but it is just not worth it. This article promotes the belief that you must be rich to be happy. I have traveled all over the world and learned that most of the happiest people are literally dirt poor. But they somehow learn to love, smile, and be happy. I find if you are friendly, they will also be friendly.

Just show interest in their culture, and they will have a lot to show and tell you. This is an example of a poor use of the internet. For those who are changing their mind about moving there because of this article are really silly. Find out for yourself. If you are thinking of moving to Hawaii, it should not just be for the beaches and sunshine, your priority should be to meet and learn about the people and culture.

That is the most fascinating thing about wanting to live there. They are the heartbeat of the islands and not the beaches. You can only learn about the culture from native Hawaiians and not people who have an agenda in writing such negative things to say.

Stay positive and follow your dreams and only you can make them happen. He wrote this article because the rest of his website paints living here in HI in a positive light..? I grew up in a remote part of AL in the s. I moved to HI to take a job to improve a social agency given a special skill set lacking in HI I have , which is common amongst most professions in HI. The racisim and obstructions my family faced becasue of where we were born and the color of our skin was shocking.

We were made aware we would never be allowed to engender as local,. Progress in educational and law enforcement , medical systems require flexability which is obstructed by this toxic us and them notion of people. Hilo is a pacific hub for many syndicates due there being almost no Federal law enforcement agencies present. Factually, the DEA unit was pulled due to budjet reasons but also suddenly after speaking to the same above.

The agents I knew were terriffied at how big the issue of extortion of business owners ,traffickimg people and drugs is and looked over for years. I was told my findings and suggestions were needed for police accountability but it was to mainland for the current time, what a cop out.

I got the almost exact same line from anState run hospital. Weeks later my associate died due to the second largest city in HI lacking a simple heart proceedure common in most US cities with 20, people.

We loved all the positive , cultural diversity, and beauty but as a parent it was my desire to live PONO for the better of all but not at the expense of my kids or darkness under rainbows.

Thank you again for speaking truths. Spot on. Thank you to Hawaiians who taught me both Aloha and Pono. My husband and I have tried moving to Aruba for years. The cost of healthcare required by Aruban law has been a stopping block.

All of the reasons listed here would apply to any island paradise. It almost seems like the article is written by someone who is just trying to discourage more people from invading their slice of heaven. I moved to the Big Island from Portland, Oregon 10 years and have had very few of the problems you mentioned in this article.

Utilities can be high but that teaches folks to conserve or go solar. Food is ono. Negative article. Hawaii is fabulous if you let go of the mainland negativity and give in to being laid back, happy and warm. Not once. Although if you look hard enough you can find A-holes anywhere. Hey Michael- thanks for the positive take on this.

There are , Pacific Islanders in all of the Hawaiian Islands, and some of those are from other Pacific Islands, i. Right, I believe the on-the-ground experience is real, based on your post and the comments here. Just trying to understand it better. How is the social scene for you? Have you been able to establish groups of friends to hang out with? I did it in the past and yes it could be trying at times, but the benefits outweighed the negatives, for me at least. To look at someone as equal no matter what they look like, or how much they have.

To value the person they are above all else. Life is never what we expect. But we take things a day at a time and the 3 of us are strong together. We will find a way to make it work. I miss the Aloha spirit that is so lacking on the mainland. I put others first, I try to help others when I can, sometimes, if you ask my wife, at my own detriment, but that is my nature.

I ran a business in Colorado for nearly 15 years and my clients still call me asking me to return, because I was honest and not driven by money.

I was driven by happiness, theirs, which translated to mine. My time in Hilo, was some of the best times of my life in respect to lifestyle and happiness, only eclipsed by the life I share with my wife and son now. And hopefully, I will be able to share that feeling with them in the coming months. Thank you Mr. Kay for your YouTube channel and this website. The added information is helpful in making the right choices. Perhaps we will bump into one another some time.

If you want to live in paradise you have to pay the price. Every island in the world have the same problems, traffic, drugs, poverty etc.. If you want to move to any island in the world, you have to get used to there culture and way of living and not vice-versa. Talking about culture shock. All europeans feel a culture shock about Americans how they eat, how they behave etc�so culture is a very subjective.

I grew up in Hawaii from , and I remember nothing but good memories, plenty of beach, laid back cruise culture. I grew to love the people, music, food, drinks and culture. However, I will probably never go back there nowadays. As politicians have ruined Hawaii and jacked up cost of living, increased poverty levels, and created a toxic environment for freedom loving Americans aka Gun owners or conservatives etc. And yes I blame the radical policies of Obama and his administration.

Former Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle at least had a gas cap on prices, etc. Democrats have only continued to ruin da Aina. Homelessness, drugs, addicts, crazy people. Maybe I missed it � -but what about taxes? Such as 8. At the income level expense place to live and the estate tax is nothing to brush over � -if you want to leave anything to your children.

Visited numerous times growing up as my neighbor had relatives living there� and back in went to summer school at Manoa U of H� eventually leading to even more visits. At this point exploring the wild idea of moving there upon retirement within 2 yrs �other than the taxes the biggest hurdle is likely the political climate� but who knows� so many positives to overcome these set backs. Again thanks � Mahalo! Maybe that difference alone will sway you to retire here. The Hawaii general excise tax is much, much worse than a sales tax.

Businesses have two variables when they are faced with a new cost like a regulation esp a regulation as they are all cost and no benefit. One is the price of goods or services they sell and the other is employee compensation. Since most businesses already charge the maximum price they can within a market, the only real variable cost is employee compensation wages, etc of which most of the cost goes to government today anyway.

So it is VERY FORTUNATE that the costs of the regulations coerced upon the business by the average consumer fall back on the consumer, lest it may exclusively fall back to employee smaller subset of population compensation like most other business regulations and taxes these days. Obviously business taxes cannot be passed onto owners, that would not be viable. What you get by taxing businesses vs. In the end all states get it one way or another � what you need to look at is the philosophy of those in state government in regards to spending.

Does HI have a balanced budget? Do those with power use it carefully respecting the people and trying to minimize taxes? Are tax dollars openly wasted? Does the state try to provide services the private sector does better more than others? Can the local children answer the phone respectfully best predictor of taxes 15 years out?

Mahalo LibertyCap! I would consider myself a libertarian small-L at the core and loved your write-up! I was pointing out that there actually is, in effect. Contextually, I took a drive to the West side very local Makaha during our last big surf swell. As I was driving through town, w my glowing blondie head, a local boy, sitting at a bus stop, saw me, looked me straight in the eye, stood up, and flipped me the bird w both hands.

Regardless, though, this is still my home, and I do love the land, the sea, and the interesting culture here. I love what nature created in Hawaii and bought land in Puna in It sad to experience the negativity of locals who are frequently living off of os welfare and drug dealing income. Most mainlanders are not white in California but we are not bitter complainers either.

We work for a living. If Hawaiian locals would try this they might gain self respect and in turn respect others of all races. Being a blonde hair white girl, born on Oahu and in Hawaii for 43 years I offer this: Dont raise daughters there older than 6th grade. The girls on the outer islands dream only of getting pregnant.

I moved to California to save my daughter from that path. Shes now 21 and a JR at sac state. Every single Female classmate as1 to 3 children. All are single mothers. None went to college. Private school girls are no better off. Theres no pressure to finish highschool. Pay is minimum wage either way.

They all live at home because rent starts at for a 2 bedroom. There is no huh housing. They canceled the list when it reached 10 years.

Maui is unique because in they took down all the drug lords. Organized crime vanished. With it went the control over drugs being brought in. They realized their mistake � let them out early but it was too late. Maui is the only place in the world where anyone can show up and sell drugs anywhere- so they do. Once it became cheap � everyone stopped doing stupid stuff to get it and people thought it went away. There are Lawyers, doctors, teachers, and law enforcement that use to be more functional at their jobs.

My daughter complained that kids smoked pot in school in 6 grade. I was the only person I know of that doesnt smoke pot. Just dont raise kids in Hawaii. Very good write up. A lot of interesting characters wash up on the shores there.. The friend was driving us somewhere at one point and had to get gas a couple times and I asked him why he needed to get it so frequently to which he responded that he bought the car at an auction but the gas tank had been modified to carry drugs so it had less capacity to hold fuel.

I remember thinking: Why does this not surprise me? If you remember the great surfer Buttons Kaluhiokalani.. Thanks very much. Got a job on Oahu back in and were lucky enough to buy a great little house at that time. Did not really get to enjoy everything about Hawaii then as the job was all consuming, and had to leave 4 years later to deal with aging parent issues on the mainland.

Kept the house and rented it out, plowing all of the rent back in the property so it would be even better when hopefully we could return. Now we are retiring, and considering moving back as planned, but I must say that reading all of the negative comments about Hawaii is a bit disheartening. That said, unless you are a devout socialist you have to hold your nose and simply ignore local politics-otherwise it would drive you crazy. Have things gotten worse since when we lived there?

Smart move that you bought and kept the house. I grew up and still live in Silicon Valley, so it is very expensive here too.

Your article is so true. When I was younger, I moved to Maui and worked there for a year. I got island fever and was bored and lonely and even though I lived across the street from a lovely beach, it just did not fulfill me. I had an old beat up car, rented a condo, bank account and a job in the hospitality industry and found a nice church I attended, but I knew after a year, I would never want to live there permanently.

I still however love to vacation there. I get back about every three years for at least two weeks and stay in a great place on the beach in Kihei and my family and I love it. Thank you for writing a very real and true article about the reality of living on a island and in Hawaii. This article was spot on. I was born in Honolulu in Lived here my whole life. A local Haole.

Public school education. Graduated from UH and then an MA from an easy coast school. Many have professional degrees and have excelled of course. I think about moving all the time. Plus I have elder parents to take care of. Overall the worst economy with the stupidest most corrupt left wing test pilot government is driving this place into the third world. A rail that will bankrupt the state? Jones act? A million dollars for a tear down house?

Chinese investors building 20 room houses w no permits? Sounds just like California! But housing wealth is basically inherited now I think In Cali. The property taxes and income taxes in Hawaii I think are better now than in California. We have the same problems of ethnic tensions as in Hawaii. There is no one ethnic majority in Southern California any longer. But there are many mixed marriages, and no one gives it a thought.

My husband and I are thinking of retiring to Hawaii, so these comments highlight many of the issues we face here in California. People move to places they see as more desirable for their circumstances. Just the way it is. The peace and quiet and better air quality we experienced during the coronavirus shutdown made me value even more a lifestyle based on natural beauty and helping to preserve natural resources and non-commercial enjoyments.

Having moved from Oregon and lived on Oahu for 11 months and after promptly moving back , I whole agree with this article. Although Hawaii is an incredible, diverse, and unique place that I love to visit, it can never be my home.

I came for the first time searching for a place that gave me a sense of belonging, and ended up facing a wall of exclusion at best, and at worst downright discrimination.

For someone who prides himself on being culturally respectful, bilingual, and who celebrates diversity, this was hard to swallow. Thanks for validating my experience with a kernel of truth, Peter. I live in Australia but am from NZ so the Polynesian culture is pretty familiar to me.

However the thing that puts me off the most from this piece is the traffic congestion. I see Hawaii as laid back but still a city, but the idea of driving around an island tgat is also clogged with traffic is awful.

Auckland is also horrific in terms of traffic and one of the reasons we dont live there. I currently live in Perth on the remote side of Australia, population 2,, to an area as big as Europe.

It really is paradise but like any place that is Pardise lacks the meatiness of a real metropolitan area. I may rethink my plans of holidaying in Hawaii based on this article � expensive, congested and racist! I mean when you look at every reason listed here where else on earth would be better? Most of these things would also be concerns everywhere else in the country.




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